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Relentless Pursuit Ft. Nick Urankar Part 2
Ep.72 Part 2 Relentless Pursuit Ft. Nick Urankar
Nick Urankar shares his philosophy on creating meaningful impact through energy and presence while discussing why plateaus don't exist in fitness or life.
• The concept that results are already within you but may not have revealed themselves yet
• How comparison can be helpful if we look at our journey differently and focus on positive interactions
• The importance of simplicity in fitness and business — focusing on fundamentals rather than complexity
• Building a personal brand organically by developing a passionate community around shared values
• Finding balance between ambition and contentment by appreciating small moments and "overflowing others"
• The value of taking consistent small actions rather than waiting for perfect conditions
• Being willing to fail publicly and commit to growth even when it's uncomfortable
• Understanding that legacy comes from how we make others feel, not just achievements
When you wake up tomorrow, ask yourself what you weren't proud of today, what's one thing you wish you would have done different, and then commit to doing it as soon as possible.
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people to think like I was trying to be fake or pretend, but I just want people who ever got around me to be like there was some, like there was something else there. There was some like I was drawn to that, like I want to have an energy, because I think that we can all do this, where, like anybody who leaves a room that I was in feels different, and I think so many times we're like, oh, my cup needs filled and their cup needs filled, and it's like this even thing, and it's like, no, we can all just overflow each other. That's what I want is like people to leave and be like I need to be that. So when you look back, I think that why I don't believe in plateaus is that you don't get to decide when something comes out. And the example I would use is like Braxton. All right, braxton, let's say you've been squatting forever and you've hit 495. And for a year and a half you're like I just can't squat 500 pounds. I can't squat 500 pounds. I haven't even hit 495 for a year and a half. I'm at 475. And you walk into the gym one day, put 500 pounds on the bar and you squat it and you immediately say I'm now stronger, I squatted 500 pounds.
Speaker 1:I would say no, it was in you and it's been in you for a long time. You just didn't have it. You didn't have a way to show it. Whether it was, you weren't recovered. Whether it was you had you had it and you just didn't do it that day. It could have. You could have had it for a year.
Speaker 1:We don't get to decide when the results come out, and I think so many times people have everything in them. They just haven't put it together, they haven't had the moment to show it. And most of the time when that happens, the next time, alston Braxton's like I did 530. Wait, you got that much stronger. No, you gained confidence. Confidence will carry you. So whenever, like progressing with somebody, the goal is to build confidence throughout and eventually you hit a point where the next step is hard. I don't believe that to be a plateau, I believe that to just be hard and it's a choice. And the hardest part with those choices is I like graph it a lot. I'll get like a whiteboard and I'll show this graph of like. Here's where you are and this is age right. So here's zero and I'll show this graph of like here's where you are and this is age right. So here's zero. Here's when you started. You've progressed, you're here Now. You have two choices Keep going and eventually we're going to hit this level, and our goal is to keep the top, the top, as long as we can and keep the slope slow.
Speaker 1:Most people stop and they fall and they restart here farther along the line, and then they compare themselves to where they were and they think only if I can get back to here, I hear that so much why, why do we stop? And it's that it's this up and down. And for me, when I talk to somebody and this relates to anything, this is work I think every single thing compounds on itself knowledge compounds, workouts compound, money compounds, like every single thing compounds. And if you stop, it can stop and it can slow. And most of the time what ends up happening is, if somebody ever stops, they look at where they were and they don't want to start because it takes too long to get back at where they were. And they don't want to start because it takes too long to get back to where they were.
Speaker 1:And that's why I don't believe in plateauing, because if you believed in it, eventually you're going to be like, well, there's no purpose now, there's no reason, and it's like, yes, there is. You may not know right now. Again, to go to what I do for a living, what like to go to? Like what I do for a living, what I do for a living didn't exist when I started doing it. Like I have online businesses. That there wasn't online businesses. I was doing CrossFit, which I didn't think was a thing, like there wasn't money in it, there weren't sponsors, like nothing existed. I grew in it. But now people are like I want to do what you do and I'm like it might not exist, like I don't know, like do you just want it because of money or what do you want it for?
Speaker 3:so I, yeah that it's really interesting hearing you talk about the look back.
Speaker 3:I mean, that's something jake and I talk about often of something that we struggle with and have challenged ourselves this year, of being more, you know, intentional, of looking back and understanding the successes and how far we've come, cause it's so easy Any of us who are, you know, chasing something in life, like we're constantly moving the bar, so, like you, you never feel like you've accomplished anything because you never give yourself the opportunity to enjoy the moment which I've explained on here, like my wife's really good at that and she's really good at reminding me of, like look, where we're at now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think what's interesting too is comparison we talked about, but that we don't do it in like the worst right, like we look at people who are doing better, but like, do you ever look at people who you're like that? I'm glad that I didn't decide that and then see and then ask yourself how, how long would it take them to get to where I am and I and in along those lines it's the same thing as like online, right? Eventually you guys will get messages like your podcast sucks, like you sell, like an r&b singer braxton, like what the heck. But here's the thing I used to comment every negative comment and it would make me feel like all that it was was negative. And one day years ago when I started getting a lot of people saying a lot of stuff, I all right, for every one negative post you comment to, you have to comment to 10 positives and what I learned was there's so much more positive stuff out there than there is negative. And then you start looking and you're like who's saying it? You're like I'm so glad that's not me Like, and that's where so for me.
Speaker 1:Compare, I do not, and that's where so for me. I do not. I compare in the normal stuff, but I love my life and it wasn't easy. I don't think it was meant to be. I wouldn't love it if it wasn't. And yeah, I look back a lot in the direction of how far I've come, but also in like where I could have been, yeah Not, why am I not somewhere else? It's like I'm right where I need to be, based on everything I've ever done. That's why we're all sitting here. Yeah.
Speaker 1:If I want to be somewhere else, do something different.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so let's, let's talk about this life.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I know that you know you and Jake are. You're sharing the entrepreneurial. You know spirit and mind and I know Jake's got. You know some takes on on that side of you.
Speaker 4:Yeah for sure. Before, though, cause you talk about him squatting 500. I feel like a lot of people play a mental game with themselves, like they overthink a lot, and I feel like that puts like a lot of toll on anything that you do, like lifting weights or anything like that, cause, like you said, it's already in you, but it's also being confident and believing that you can do it, but I feel like people just overthink way too much.
Speaker 1:Well, and that's that's where like everything to me is like simplicity.
Speaker 1:So example in weights is a great. It to me is like simplicity. So, example in weights how is a great? It's an easy way to do. This is like, let's say, you are somebody who's stuck somewhere at some weight. My guess is you warm up with the exact same weights to get to the exact same place. Every single time. You have the exact same problem.
Speaker 1:My strategy would be the next time add five pounds to every single thing that you do on your way to that weight. Okay, cool, like, yeah, but I still failed the end. Yeah, but you lifted so much more weight over that time period. And then the next time do it again. And if it's like well, I don't like to start that heavy, cool, add an extra set, but always be progressing somewhere, whether it's a rep, a weight, an amount. It's not all about weight, it's not.
Speaker 1:But ultimately, like, if you do that enough times and you add enough sets in the beginning, or you take them away and you add enough weight, eventually you're actually going to have that end weight be your middle weight. If that's your goal, yeah. And that's where I think a lot of times, we, we, we think if we just keep trying, we keep trying, we keep trying, we keep trying, it's like adjust, make a small tweak and because, how I look at, it is not the end. Okay, you still kept failing, that it's like, but we are progressively increasing our overall work capacity during that time. So that is a win, and I'm always looking for a win.
Speaker 4:There you go, okay, you being an entrepreneur owning a business and your personal brand. Obviously I just started my apparel brand. It's been two years since I started. I always get, you know, I've always had people say, oh, you don't have a big following, oh it's not going to take off. And then I hear like all these big, big you know big names saying don't start an apparel brand. If you don't have a big following, don't start an apparel brand. Always hear it and I'm like you know what? I block all that out. I don't, I don't hear it. I'm still going to put my passion into it and, you know, pushing the the be better mindset out to people. Um, what's been the hardest part of growing your personal brand?
Speaker 1:oh, the hardest part of growing my personal brand. Well, I would say that I started not knowing I was growing a brand. Um, a lot of times, you know, I'll talk about different things and with people as far as like, what do you do, how do I do this, how do I do that? Um, honestly, I didn't even try to make money online when I had a decent following for four years. So I think, for me, when thinking about like a brand, it's like now looking, what I'm looking at now is like, essentially, I'm creating an avatar. Right, who is this person that I'm speaking to? And I think for most people, you don't need a big audience, but if you don't have a big audience, you need like a passionate follower, like like a person who's like an evangelical, like this is this matters.
Speaker 1:And here's why, um, if and if I was thinking about a business now, I'd be like okay, how can I then take that and make them, make, help them, use their platform to help the cause? And that's what I would be focused on is like taking them and building this like cult, like following, to be able to do that. And for me, I would think money last and speaking to the that group and not a, and it would be more about like why are we doing this? Not like, oh, this is a, this is great clothing, this is great. But it's like why are we doing this? Not like, oh, this is this is great clothing, this is great. But it's like why are we better? How, what, what do we stand for? Why do we stand for this? And I would be like mission driven. And then it's like if this is how you feel, this is what we wear.
Speaker 1:So it would be very much a like daily, just speaking to that, and then randomly just like cause, I think the best brands it's it's not, it's not, you're not a brand until you're a brand or you're just you're, you're a company, and it's like well, let's build something. And I think online it's like you build a community. And that's where, for me, I had a community of people who looked at me as holy crap, this is like the strongest guy in the sport. He's. I was like people like you're like six, three, two thirty.
Speaker 4:I'm like no, I'm not camera, add some weight and that braxton's height.
Speaker 3:People would see me in person and be like nick's actually for those of you watching standing right now yeah, oh wow, there's a hole it's a trampoline. Oh, that's great yeah no, I mean, I think you look at. You know at least the way I look at things. You know I don't necessarily buy when it comes to apparel or other things, necessarily because of the apparel itself. It's because of the company and the values and what they stand for and who they are. That's what attracts me and I'm like. I want to support that.
Speaker 4:That's what draws me to it.
Speaker 1:And I think honestly, some of the biggest companies do not have big followings. They have big budgets.
Speaker 4:Yes, 100. Honestly, some of the biggest companies do not have big followings they have big budgets yes, 100.
Speaker 1:So there's, there's that, there's that game. It's kind of like for me. I think a hard thing for me right now is mine was very organic in the sense of.
Speaker 1:You know, I grew a following and it was kind of like they wanted stuff, so I just gave them what they wanted and grew stuff through it to the point of, like, I've done very little advertising, um, marketing. It's just been, uh, fortunately organic. But I know that I could scale. I know that I could do a lot more and I think for me, that's not where I feel like I'm called right now, um, and that, I think, is the the tough part, right, like, if you're like, no, I want to grow. Like, what are the goals of the be better brand? Right, what compared to like, what are the goals for me over here? And I would say that there are. They're different difference I have is I have a bigger platform. I wouldn't say that it's a bigger brand. I mean, probably, yes, it is, essentially, but probably not to scale.
Speaker 1:And, yeah, the, to me, I think it's one of the coolest things to be able to try to take something, especially that nobody thinks that you can do. And here's the thing If it doesn't work, it did work. Like, I don't think that there's such thing as a failure. I mean, we obviously fail all the time, but it's just learning, right, like, I think the coolest thing about entrepreneurship and like cause, I had an apparel company and I still kind of do. I don't push anything on it, it's just Zeus method. People are like I want to be Zeus athlete. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And things change. Like example for me. Or let's say, you're out there and you do have like a small company and you're doing all these things, but then people keep saying a similar theme of like, well, why don't you do this, why don't you do this? And these are the people who you're like they own the stuff I have, they care about what I'm doing. Maybe I should do that and you, they care about what I'm doing, maybe I should do that. And your business evolves.
Speaker 1:I think so many entrepreneurs get stuck in this one lane of like. But this is who we are, this is what we're doing. And that's where, if you're like mission driven and you're talking about like, what is it that we stand for? Eventually it might be a community that gets built, and then that community is built around this concept that ultimately has apparel that then people latch onto through secondary outlets of people walking around wearing this. So for me, I'm like a lot of times there's this where's the pivots? And it's when you hit the pivots, what do you do? And I think in apparel there's a lot of pivots you can take, whether it's adding, taking away, or saying hey, hey, we're gonna add this thing over here and see what happens.
Speaker 1:Um, if you talk to a lot of entrepreneurs, they'll say you know big ones that have blown up or like, really have grown big things. They're like you know anybody who's made a lot of money? It's one thing right. They say seven streams of income. You know a lot of people like, oh, it'd be a millionaire, seven streams of income. But really it's that one main one. Yeah, but inside that one main one, a lot of times there's a lot of things, yeah, and I think that that's where people can get skewed. It's because they're like well, that business is where you made all the money. It's like, yeah, doing 15 things, yep, exactly, but one of those 15 things hit.
Speaker 1:And that's the part I think. A lot of times people aren't patient enough to walk through the process of the pain. And it's the same thing as the lift, it's the same thing as right, it's one inch. It's like you don't know how far you are away from striking gold and you may never, but you also might. And to me, if you always have that hope and that drive, go, chase it. In the US, we are not going to go hungry and go without a place to be, and I think that we're all in probably a good place that we don't have to worry about that. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So if that's the case, why wouldn't you be fine failing every single day after the thing that you want? And that's why, like people can look, like you can see, like, oh, nick, had all these successes. Like in the beginning, I, I don't think I was a success, I just think I didn't quit and I got mediocre results. And if I yeah, if I had to do it again, I'd do it way better, but I wouldn't go back and do it again, I wouldn't change the thing. Like the struggles that I had to go through, the sacrifices, like the failures. Again, I learned so much and then I didn't quit. I just I was done.
Speaker 4:It's made you who you are today too, the person you are but sticking it's made you who you are today to the person you are but sticking with the business part here, this one obviously. I'm obviously going to take notes from you too. What advice would you give to someone thinking about starting their own business in the fitness world? We'll just say, just in the fitness world starting your own business in the fitness world?
Speaker 1:Okay, there's. I would say this in any business business, there's two things you need, um, you need a customer and something to sell them, and I think that that's where you start. I think too many people want a website and you know I need to have the right this and that, and I need to build the thing. And I think, if you talk with any any entrepreneur that started and is where somebody else wants to be, maybe it's in a newer area, like, like example, for me, online. When I started, I had people pay me through paypal or they'd send me a check once a month and I would send them a numbers, spreadsheet of stuff or just an email. There was nothing fancy and I got paid hundreds of dollars per person and I'd be like this isn't fair like ah, nobody, there was no ebooks you made and you already like
Speaker 1:had this perfect document. I'm gonna spend so much money on developing these things. Who, who wants what you have? And then some people are like, well, I don't have anything. Well, then, find the thing they want and see if they want it. And if it's not good, change it and see if they want it. So, for me, what is it that you want to sell? Not, what do you think you can sell? Some people are like, oh, I could do this.
Speaker 1:And if you are passionate about fitness, the number one thing that I would do right now if I was starting something brand new, is I would go online. I would ask every single person I know and I'd be like I want to help you for free and I want to help you what is your goal? And I want to get you to that goal. And I'm not going to say I want a testimonial. I want you to do these things for me. I want to help you until you reach that goal, but along the way, I want your feedback and I'm going to create things and I'm going to find out like, shoot, they didn't like it. That wasn't fun. I'm going to talk to these people and I'm just going to give as much as I possibly can, away for as long as I have to, and I'm going to find out what is it and I'm going to talk to those people and then I'm going to figure out how can I ask that person to ask somebody else. And I'm going to do that as long as I have to and then eventually, I'm going to find out what is it that I can make or create, and then I'm going to ask people if it's really good. And here's the thing If it is really good, I can run ads.
Speaker 1:And that's what I would end up doing is I would say okay, this is good. And what I would say is this how much would you pay for it? And I would start having some people charge me. And if I made 300 bucks, I'm like all right, I'm running $300 ads and I'm going to learn this ads thing. I'm now going to go online, I'm going to go to YouTube, I'm going to go to YouTube university and I'm going to watch every single thing I can about how to run Facebook ads. Or I might even create something and put on TikTok shop because it's free. You can do so many things right now, but the problem is everyone's like yeah, that's the problem. No, what are you going to sell to who Once you have that you? Have a business.
Speaker 1:Once you take some money, it's not more complicated than that. You can then get an app for free and have them. Just you just pay a fee. You can sign up for Stripe and send out invoices and create membership stuff, subscriptions, and have people pay you every month to just send an email. Hey, I'm going to do a $10 a month thing, subscription-based. Here's my link. Has what it is? Boom, all you pay is 2.9%. There's no fees, there's no website. You then can go on and create a free website and add free stuff. You can go to fiverr and have somebody, for 50 bucks somewhere in the world, create an amazing funnel and boom, you can create an email list and just start talking to them all the time. Like, there are so many things that you can do, but the number one what are you going to sell to who? And then, after that, the world's your oyster. I could tell you 50 million different ways that you can go down the rabbit hole, and it's fun.
Speaker 4:That's the thing. There's so much stuff on social media and like on the internet that it's free, that you can take advantage and use. It's so awesome. Yeah, it's the thing.
Speaker 1:There's so much stuff on social media and on the internet that's free, that you can take advantage and use. It's so awesome. Yeah, it's so awesome.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's just people taking the action to do it.
Speaker 1:Well, that's what I mean. I think some people will say so. The hardest part, I think, about a business like a fitness and kind of most businesses. You open up a gym way different, up a gym way different, and the reason why is because I can go and be like, oh, I have this thing I just made. I made a pdf and I'm gonna try to sell it. Oh, nobody bought it and I trash it. I open a gym and nobody comes in the doors. Tomorrow I'm opening the gym again and I'm trying to get people in the doors, and the next day I'm opening the gym again and I'm going to throw all my money I can because I put too much money into this to walk away from it.
Speaker 1:And I think too many people don't have skin in the game and they act like they do because they tried, yeah, that that doesn't cut it. So for me it's like how can I? When people ask, how do you start, I'm like, well, you put your toe in the water and you fall in and you and you start drowning and you figure out how to. It's like burning the boats right, you have to be able to find a way to shut off the. I'm stopping. But you can't just say like I'm going to quit everything, I'm going to go all in. If it doesn't work, I'm going back. It's like, no, don't quit anything, add this, and if you don't like it, then you shouldn't be doing it. It has nothing to do with quitting. You shouldn't be doing this Like it's like when I starting anything, there's no, there's no quit, because I there's no end.
Speaker 4:Like you're right, it's true, you know, I just I'd like I said a lot of people. Just you've heard, I mean you hear there I forget the percentage, but there's only a certain percentage of people that have the right mindset to be an entrepreneur, because a lot of them can't do it.
Speaker 1:you know, I think so it's kind of like when you talk about like adhd, they're like, oh, you know, if adhd, I'm like yeah, but I can find something they can focus on.
Speaker 1:Yep, we all know things that people can focus on, and I think that it's not that people can't be entrepreneurs, it's that people don't don't want to sit in the. Everyone sees that I'm not making this the way that they know. I want to and I have to do it in front of them. And people have to know and most people fail because they don't ever let anybody see that they're trying. And it's the cyclical thing. If you put forth very little action and get very little results, you lose confidence. Therefore, you start to feel like a failure. So the next time you try, you try less, see less results.
Speaker 1:Where, if we can reverse it, it and we can basically make it to where? Like what if you stopped caring? And I think that that is a whole podcast in and of itself, because we all care. And the thing, the reverse side of it is saying, like, well, all these people are looking at me like, oh, you're a failure. The reverse side of it is but those people, if you make it, are going to be like, well, yeah, but you were lucky, how?
Speaker 4:you know that statement.
Speaker 1:And then you're going to have some people that say, well, how'd you do it? And you're going to look at them and be like what do you mean? The whole time I was doing it, you were telling me I shouldn't. That's how I did it. I didn't listen to you. And because they I think a hard part for me when it comes to business, when it comes to most things, is that go on social media.
Speaker 1:All that social media does, like TikTok and all these, is they're showing you a way to do something that fits the life you already have, that gives you the result that you want, that that you haven't got. But you don't have to change anything now to get it, because all you have to do is what you've been doing, because somebody just said it works. So then you're like wait a minute, okay, and then three months later you're like wait, it didn't work. And it's like, yeah, and it didn't work the last time. But all of you are searching for how to get the results you want, living the life you live. And I fall to this point all the time and I say why can't you just learn to love where you are? Because if you're not willing to change, you're not going anywhere else. That's what I see social media as is. It's a place for you to try to find what it is you're looking for wrapped in the box you already have.
Speaker 3:That's good.
Speaker 1:It is. But there are people out there who don't do that, but far and few between. And people will say, dude, I love that you don't sound like everybody else. It's like, well, I don't listen to everybody else.
Speaker 4:That's the thing you can't. You need to stay in your lane and focus on you, man.
Speaker 1:There's nobody that's above you that will ever criticize you and put you down.
Speaker 1:And those are the people that you need to go to and ask, and that's where you need to seek, because those people are going to be like, hey, is this really what you want? This is going. What you want? Like this is gonna be hard, like this is not gonna be easy. Like building a building, apparently it's not gonna be easy. It might take you 20 years. You cool with that and it might take you 20 years and it might not still cool with that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, all right, go, that's how it's gonna be, man, it's, it's how it is. It's not.
Speaker 1:It's not an overnight success, you know, but what, and that's what's what's success, I know you know, we, we said that on the last episode, literally man, like many people, could look at my life and be like that's it. I'd be like yeah.
Speaker 1:I made it Like now. Does that mean it's over? No, does that mean that, like I made it and it's like I'm done, or like no, but like, right now I'm good and there's more. What's next? I'm good and there's more. What's next? Yeah, there's more, and the what next might be less. It doesn't have to be like. I think most people it's like oh, it's a, it's a financial thing or it's a this, and it's like. All those things are always going to play a role, but the smaller you make it matter, most likely the bigger it's going to end up being anyway.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean there's. There's two quotes I think of with the comment you just made, it's are you willing to sprint when the distance is unknown? And I think there's a lot of people who it's like if I don't know where the finish line is, I'm going to pace myself and that's just the way that we can't go hear a lot too.
Speaker 1:They're like well, remember, a marathon is like it's slow, so go slow, and it's like I think entrepreneurship is just you sprint and you rest, and you sprint, and you rest, and you sprint and you rest, and you sprint and you rest and you sprint and you rest and just keep doing that. There's no. The only time you stop and you slow down is when you get somebody else to sprint for you.
Speaker 2:And now you got a business Like there's no. The only time you stop and you slow down is when you get somebody else to sprint for you, and now you got a business.
Speaker 3:That's amazing. So let's talk. Let's talk in today's terms. What does a day in the life look like for Nick?
Speaker 1:This is hard for me because my I don't know how to look back and explain to people what my life looked like. Obviously, I did that a little bit here, but in a regular basis I don't. So most people just hear me where I'm like. So my days, um, so there's, there's my days right now with my wife. So, um, my, me and my wife never worked out together because I was always training and competing and she was like you're way too intense, like this is too crazy.
Speaker 1:And when we sold the gyms, I wasn't ever training in the gyms, I was training by myself, but not like in classes. And my wife would kind of be like hey, you should come in, it'd be really good, you should come in. So I would go in. And it's just hard to go into a business that you've sold, and for multiple reasons, and we'll leave it at that and I just would train at home. Well, now my wife has been like I want to work out with you. So my day now looks like this I wake up at about five o'clock in the morning. Now, now, granted, I'm in bed by like 8.39, so I'm getting my eight hours.
Speaker 4:We better hurry up and wrap this up, yeah.
Speaker 1:I wake up at 5.
Speaker 1:My wife would wake up at 4 and walk for an hour and do her like standing vibrating, thingy-ma-jigger whatever do her red light therapy in her face and I wake up at 5, and I drink a bunch of water and I make a cup of coffee and I sit down and I sip my coffee for like 20 minutes and then at 5.30, she comes up. Sometimes maybe 10 minutes before that we get in the car and we go to the gym and we work out for like she'll time it every day. It's like 54 minutes or 56 minutes and we're back at home by 6, 45, 7. My oldest one leaves for school a little bit before 8. My wife normally takes her to school.
Speaker 1:My youngest one is waking up at this point and I kind of joke around with her and I'm the like poking guy and they're like dad, stop, it's early. And I'm like, smile, I'm poking them and then I take my youngest to school. That's an eight 50. She gets dropped off and then I'm thinking what am I doing with my day at that point? And I normally look at my days at like as like two hour blocks. So I've got that five to seven with my wife, I've got seven to nine kids stuff, and then normally I start at 10. So that nine to 10 is like I normally will have the dog with me in the car. So I might think like, oh, I'm gonna go to a coffee shop, or I'm gonna go someplace and I'll come home and I'll take him out of the car, and I might be like you know what, I'm not going to go to the coffee shop, I'm just gonna go to the basement.
Speaker 1:I'll grab my computer. I normally will look at accounts, like I pretty much look at most of our accounts just in the morning. It's just like a habit I've had. I'll go onto the business and see like okay, who signed up, you know? And then on Mondays and on Thursdays or Fridays I send out emails. So I'll either have wrote an email Sunday night or I'll sit down and I'll write an email to send out to my subscriber list and then I'll look at programs that maybe need some tweaking or different stuff. As far as, like on Zeus method, which is my company for programming online, that if I need to add anything into it I'll do that.
Speaker 1:I'll go to a coffee shop, have a coffee, sit open my computer, play a little on, like YouTube, like read, read stuff. I'll put a book in my ears, listen to something. Normally at this point it's like noon and I'm wondering now what am I going to do? And I'll like now I'll go home, I'll throw with the dog, listen to more of a book or a podcast. I've got till 3, 30 to 3, 45 to pick up my daughter, so I might get bored. I'll make some content. So I'll make some videos.
Speaker 1:Um yeah, and at this point it's like I start to kind of get bored. I think people underestimate that Because my business is pretty self-sufficient and it's subscription-based for the most part. So I'll talk to people online and people message and I normally post online at between 8 and 8.30 in the morning, if not earlier, and I don't post anymore. I literally post. So I don't go on social media, I don't it's I. I personally don't enjoy social media as a consumption tool. I I always tell my kids I, you can either be a consumer or creator and I'd rather create, and hopefully I'm creating some value. So I'll pick up my youngest and and a lot of times too, my wife will come home and me and my wife I have like an hour conversation inside that window.
Speaker 1:I'll pick up my daughter come home and I'll be like you got homework, sit down with her, do some stuff, maybe play with her, do something, go on a walk. And it gets to a point where it's like six and it's like dinner and then I basically hang out with my wife and my kids and that's kind of like what it. I made that really long for like not a whole lot, but that's most days it's pretty um so for me right now.
Speaker 1:I was creating a lot of stuff before that, meaning I would take a lot of time and try to build something new, and I realized a lot of it was just busy work. So I'm taking this season right now to really find out, like, where do I really want to make an impact and kind of slow down and take the time that I've I'm privileged to have. And it's really hard for me to be able to say stuff like that, because it sounds like, dude, do you do anything? And it's like I do a lot, but it's just my life, it's part of it, like I don't look at anything, nothing, I, I, I don't know. It's just so hard like to say, like, what do you do for the business? A lot of stuff, but it's just like I just do it, like it's just part of my day yeah, it's like your routine, yeah but it's, and it doesn't take long and it's fun and I enjoy it.
Speaker 1:And my wife will always be like what are you doing? I'm like I just love this, like I get to do this. This is so cool. Like I'll sit down sometimes and just create programs. Some days I might just sit there and just do that for a while. Other days I might just be like I'm gonna go to a park and walk for hours and just learn something in my ears.
Speaker 3:So I want to tell you guys a couple stories here about Nick. And so there's a lot of things that I admire about Nick, and since him and I have become friends. He laughs, but he knows how much value he's brought to my life, and you know.
Speaker 1:Is this some?
Speaker 3:of the value.
Speaker 4:This is. It is that's brought to my life and um. You know the value this is.
Speaker 3:It is Um so Nick and I are at dinner a couple of weeks ago, yeah, and um, you know, we're we're talking through some things and we're trying to figure out, hey, we should get another uh couples date night on the calendar calendar, and so I pull up my calendar and Nick pulls up his and mine is just he's a crazy guy and Nick pulls up his and I think he had like the next morning he was having coffee with someone and then there wasn't another thing on his calendar until like two weeks later and I'm like like my mind is just absolutely blown.
Speaker 3:But what I love about that, where I'm getting to, is Nick and I have had a lot of conversations about like how different of a place of life that we are when it comes to like career and schedule and how, like I am trying to do everything I can to remove some things from my calendar to open up freedom, to focus on things that add value, whereas nick has created that freedom in his schedule, um, but he's looking for opportunities of where he can add things that create value, and so that's been a really cool thing, just to you know, for him and I to go back and forth and talk about perspective and you know just scheduling and life, and you know we talk about balance on here and what that looks like.
Speaker 1:And that was the first time I'd ever heard anybody say that. When you said that to me, like I never thought about it, like that I'm trying to add, and so many more people are literally just trying to get things out and take things away yeah.
Speaker 3:The second thing that I admire about Nick is that the dude can find joy in anything, and the the one of my favorite stories that his wife Chelsea tells is you know, a few weeks back we got all this snow. We get all this snow. I can't believe she said this.
Speaker 1:Did she say this to you?
Speaker 3:No, she told me to my face Okay.
Speaker 1:I don't know if she sent you video. She took videos of this.
Speaker 3:Chelsea and the girls are in the house and they're doing something maybe making dinner and she peeks outside and Nick's outside by himself building a snowman, and I'm like that would never even cross my mind. I mean, maybe if Copeland or Aviana asked yeah asked me hey, dad, like let's go outside make a snowman, but like to just like, hey, I'm gonna take the time to enjoy the snow we got and build a snowman, I'm like we didn't get this much this year, so he had to.
Speaker 1:I just put my dude, I put my foot in it and I was like that's packing snow no money, that was it that was that was it.
Speaker 3:So it's just, it's amazing to see the life that you've built and how you just you cherish a lot of the little things a lot of us take for granted Just because we loaded our calendars and we're so busy that we miss those moments.
Speaker 1:I appreciate that I mean I, yeah, I mean that's it is. I do take a lot of that stuff for granted. An example is like I think my kids struggle with doing anything alone because I'm always up for it. Example like we were driving. I take my daughter home it was a Sunday night from soccer practice and we do carpool and I carpool for soccer and my daughter she they always ask for stuff, ice cream or anything. My daughter's like, hey, dad, I know you're going to say no to like ice cream or anything, but can we go to the park? And you chase us. And I was like, yes, and I let them out. And they're like, give us 10 seconds. So I videoed them run, like running away from me and we played tag for a half hour before the girl had to go home.
Speaker 1:And it's that stuff where, like, my kids will go to places and every single kid ends up playing with us and my kids.
Speaker 1:When we leave, they're like dad, everybody loves you, like all these kids.
Speaker 1:And I was like, yeah, but it's when you invite people in, every single kid wants to be playing that game and that's that's the part where, like, I I put a lot of, I beat myself up a lot because I don't feel like I do enough. And then I think I I look and I like admire the fact that I'm like dude, but where you are in your company and what you're doing and what you're building for your family and all these like that's awesome, that's amazing. All these like that's awesome, that's amazing. And it's the flip of like wait, it's kind of amazing that I get to do what I get to do too, so like there's that it goes every way. Everybody takes for granted what they have, like what they have, what they don't have, what somebody else does, what they don't do, what they. And my biggest thing is that's why I, I live by like happiness trumps everything, find joy in anything, experiences matter so much and I'm kind of like always up and my mom or my wife always say she's like Nick is always up for anything.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, I think so many of us listening to this right now. You know you look back, maybe just within this week, like how many times did the kids ask you, hey, let's go outside and and play? Or you could have very easily, like your kid, your daughter's eyes hey, can we go play tag? And you're like well, it's been a long day and I'm exhausted and I we need to get home so I can eat dinner. I need to get back.
Speaker 1:You know on the computer like we miss yeah those moments well, everybody's heard this, i'm'm guessing, and if you haven't, here you go. You know there's when I had our kids or the kids were young. I used to always say to my wife and I still say it, but I said it a lot it's like I pick them up and I'd be like there's going to be a last time I do this, give them a kiss. I'm like there's going to be a last time I do this and I do everything. And she'd be like all right, nick, I get it. I'm like no, no, but but I won't know the last time. And example I just had said this. So we were having a family meeting, we're all talking, and I brought up, uh, my wife said, hey, I want to start. So I basically put the kids to bed, like I'll like give my youngest one a kiss. If I'm in the other room with my oldest one and we're laughing and stuff, she'll be like hey, why? Why didn't you laugh with me?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so my I basically and I was like tearing up telling this to them is I was like do you know, jada, when you turned 13, I went to give you a kiss and you turned your cheek. And when you turned 13, I went to give you a kiss and you turned your cheek. And when you were 14, she's 15 now when you were 14, you accidentally kissed me. That was the last one. Like, people don't get to remember that, but I remember the time that it could have been the last. And then I remember the one you accidentally did and I wanted to tell her you accidentally kissed me because I think she knew it. But it's that stuff like I told that story to my mom, like there's a last time. You, I'll pick them up, and my mom looked at me and she was like I want to pick you up right now and she did and it just like brought a smile to her face.
Speaker 1:And I think a lot of times we overestimate how much value is in these. What we consider small, mundane, non, there's no value in it. There's so much. Every, every hard thing you've ever gone through or in a person that was with you. You remember way more than you do the best things and, and I think, the people that are with you the most now are the ones you need to celebrate these little, tiny things I mean just joking, like I'll grab your chest, grab your shoulder, like make you smile.
Speaker 1:Like to me I'm like when you see somebody smile, that that's, that's a gift. So I love everything pretty much.
Speaker 3:Jake, yo Want to run Nick through a rapid fire. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Do you like all of them? Yeah, man. All right.
Speaker 1:I wrote down some stuff, I think.
Speaker 4:Uh-oh, you ready. Set the timer. Let's do it do it okay, rapid fire, coming at you I have to answer rapidly.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, these are just real quick real quick answers and I mean, I'm the first one to do this right.
Speaker 3:You don't have to explain them in detail.
Speaker 4:If you don't want to, okay, no, no, go to pre-workout meal.
Speaker 1:Dude coffee, but, like I said, grabbing my espresso specifically, oh yeah, and just sitting down and not feeling rushed, I don't need any food.
Speaker 4:Nope. No, me All right. One book that changed your perspective.
Speaker 1:Rich Dad, poor Dad, big Time and then kind of all his stuff like Cashflow Quadrant blew my mind and then I actually wrote. So books are like my thing. I even wrote down a couple. There's a book called the Almanac of Naval Ravikant.
Speaker 4:I've heard of that one Awesome.
Speaker 1:Be Obsessed of them. Awesome, um, be obsessed or be average. I probably listened to that like 15 times. I don't know if you guys have heard that. Grant Cardone, yep. Um, so I'll go with that.
Speaker 4:Toughest workout you've ever done.
Speaker 1:This is really hard, um, because there's there's two, and they both happen to be okay three. Two of them were at the CrossFit Games, so it's really hard to compare. So if I tell you what the workout is, people are always like, oh, I've done that before, that wasn't that bad. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:And I'm like I can't even tell you I couldn't. I okay. So the workout was it was Murph at the CrossFit Games and it was event like I don't know what number event it was. It was up there and it was at noon or one o'clock in LA Sun was over us, it was like 130 degrees on the floor and I I didn't do Murph.
Speaker 1:I did Murph plus like a ton of reps Cause I got no reps, so much on pushups. I don't do Murph. I did Murph plus like a ton of reps because I got no reps, so much on pushups. I don't know how many pushups I did and I basically why it was so bad was the workout finished and you weren't allowed to leave the floor, like there was no shade, no nothing. You weren't allowed to go off the floor. People were hiding under tables. It was really bad.
Speaker 1:And I got out of the stadium and there was a tunnel and I sat down in the tunnel and there was a bunch of people by me and I had water bottles. I think I was drinking something and then all of a sudden I see a girl coming by me crying. There's a girl on a stretcher, somebody's being carried away, and I realized it's been an hour and I looked down and I have 10 bottles empty that I must have been drinking. I had to move. Nobody was by me anymore. The women had already gone, which meant I was going in like a half an hour to compete again and I just blacked out.
Speaker 1:Got up and people are yelling my name to go and do the next event. So I ran out to the next event not even knowing what was going on and I bombed it. But that workout was horrible. Another one that wasn't at the crossfit games was I did a workout that I'd saw that was at the crossfit games before. I was good and I somehow got in my car, drove home and woke up laying on my porch. I don't remember hours. I didn't want to say the word.
Speaker 3:It was like three workouts all like back to back to back.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, so beat that yeah Right Best piece of advice you've ever received.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, that is, is there really a best piece of advice? Or is it a best piece of advice in the best, in like the perfect situation? Because I think I've. I don't think I took advice very well for a very long time and, and I would probably say, the best piece of advice I've ever received is like this one. I didn't even really know how to even think about it because essentially, almost like you're good enough and in the context of it was basically like there's no success, the top, all that stuff is, it truly doesn't, it won't matter and, like you, are already plenty yeah and actually like believing that.
Speaker 1:So I think I think sometimes you hear things that you're like we've all heard that and it's like now. But sometimes, like you hear it and it and it actually hits. So I think sometimes the the weirdest things just hit right. So like you're enough and I believe that I'm not perfect, I'm not even close.
Speaker 4:Yeah last one, one thing most people get wrong about fitness it's so simple.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's so simple, we just complicate it, yeah like sure do like everything I could.
Speaker 1:Literally we could all never touch a piece of equipment and give us a flat ground and probably in five years I we could all be looking the same like I like breaking things down like this. All that lifting weights is is you're just fighting against gravity and making it harder to work against it. So if you don't have the weight, just do more of making it harder to fight against gravity. That's literally all that lifting weights is like. When people like try to make all these complicated things like dude, no, you're just fighting, trying to jump really high, you're just seeing how hard you can push and fight against it before it pulls you back down.
Speaker 1:Lifting weights is just pushing more of you farther away from the ground against gravity Like that's it, because that that's why I'm like when people are like, oh, you have to do it, no, you don't just get your body stronger against pushing against gravity in any way with anything, I don't matter. That's awesome.
Speaker 4:That was it, man. Those are. Those are the ones.
Speaker 3:So you and I you touched on this earlier in the podcast and you and I've been having a lot of conversation about it lately, but you know what? What's next? What's the future look like?
Speaker 1:That's what I'm trying to figure out. Um, I think that's hard, because I feel like I have this gift of time that I don't want to waste. I'm 41. I feel like I'm 20.
Speaker 1:I think for me, it's understanding that there's a lot of opportunities and for me, most people don't feel like they get a lot of them, but it's because they haven't learned to see them into how to like, grab one when it comes. So for me, I think it's not rushing into what's next and what what I say right now is next, I'm probably going to be way off. So for me, it's saying that if I want to have an impact and I want to make a purpose, there's going to be an opportunity to do that, and I don't have to rush into it, I don't have to force it, and for me it's right now. I think in the season of this life it's getting around people that are going to push me in ways that I can't do myself, that I've gotten to this point, essentially utilizing me to get where I am, and now I'm here and it's like there's more and I need help and I need to be able to take that and use it.
Speaker 1:And you know, braxton's somebody that I look at as like, I feel like a person that could definitely push me in ways that I that I need, um, and in ways that I that I need, and in ways that, like, I think, a lot of times, the best ways that somebody can help you is, without even trying, like they just they are who they are and they inspire by that and therefore, you're like, in order for me to stay in this, I need to keep moving. Otherwise, I'm going to be left behind and I'm going to be the one looking at everybody around me saying why are you guys all changing? I'm going to be left behind and I'm going to be the one looking at everybody around me saying why are you guys all changing? I want you to be who you were. Instead, for me, it's like, if I put myself in rooms of people who aren't settling, then I'm not allowed to either.
Speaker 3:When the day comes that Nick's no longer here? What do you want your legacy to be when the day comes that Nick's no longer here?
Speaker 1:what do you want your legacy to be? I want, I mean really I look and I want my kids to be like my dad loved us so much and, through us, shined on so many people and impacted so many people in ways that he didn't know he was, because he was just being him. I don't want people to think like I was trying to be fake or pretend, but I just want people who ever got around me to be like, fake or pretend, but I just want people who ever got around me to be like there was some, like there was something else there. There was some like I was drawn to that, Like I want to have an energy Cause.
Speaker 1:I think that we can all do this where, like, anybody who leaves a room that I was in feels different, and I think so many times we're like, oh, my cup needs filled and their cup needs filled, and it's like this even thing. And I think so many times we're like, oh, my cup needs filled and their cup needs filled, and it's like this even thing and it's like, no, we can all just overflow each other. That's what I want. It's like people to leave and be like I need to be that.
Speaker 3:That's good. So with with the, the listeners right now that may be in a position where they feel stuck. We talked about being stuck in weights and stuck in progression, but for someone who feels stuck in life, what would your advice be or next step that they could take?
Speaker 1:You're not alone.
Speaker 3:We all do.
Speaker 1:But we all think we're alone and I think being stuck is one of the hard, or feeling like you are. Because it's a hard, it's hard to reach out. When you feel that way and I think for me it would be you're not alone, don't quit, and the number one thing would just be, take everything that's happening as a way to learn, because if you feel stuck, all you need to do is change what's happening.
Speaker 1:Change something little little by little, by little by little by little. Just make these slight changes and I think most people feel stuck and stay stuck because they don't change and they'll say they don't know how. And what I would say is you do know how, you just don't want to do it. I think we all just as fitness is simple and every most things in life are very simpler and we are very scared of if we just try a little, we're gonna fail and everyone's going to see it and we would rather stay and feel like well, but I haven't tried. My my daughter just said to me she wasn't smiling in the car today and I said we got to the point to where I was like if you smile, I'll get you Starbucks, and she goes straight face. No, you won't.
Speaker 1:And I said and she goes straight face no, you won't. And I said you would rather take a zero percent chance of getting it because you don't think you could than even having a one percent percent shot of getting it. With a smile I was like, wow, think about that. She's like, well, that's my ego, it doesn't want to. And I go, yeah, but like you're willing to take no, like there's not a shot, you're not even willing to take a chance. That's how people are. So then I said to her can I hold your hand? And she just busted out laughing did she get her starbucks?
Speaker 3:no, she didn't smile because, I said that's over you
Speaker 1:know, she said but you wouldn't have gotten. I'm like, well, maybe not today eventually, but but, but it's that, but that's it right. If somebody says to you like, hey, give me your hand, I want to help you, and you're like, no, what? Okay, what if they can't help you, cool, cool, they want to. They'll walk with you, maybe they'll jump down there with you for a while. But most of the time we give up everything for a 0% chance of moving forward, because 1% isn't enough. So we take nothing. That's the stuff right. That's the stuff where I'm like man. The next time that you don't think there's a shot. You don't think that there's the stuff, right. That's the stuff where I'm like man. The next time that you don't think there's a shot, you don't think that there's an option, you don't think that there's anything. Think about the choice you're actually then making, because most likely it's one that has a 0% chance. I'll always take 1%. This has been really good. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:We got a couple more here. You want to hit? Oh wait more I thought that was it. That's it in in closing it's a closing, oh god.
Speaker 4:So basically, I mean obviously yeah where can people connect with you? You know, follow your socials and your journey. Where um?
Speaker 1:instagram, nick your anchor, tiktok, nick dot your anchor. I think I don't know why nick your anchor just didn't work. After a while I'm going to probably start doing some YouTube stuff. I just hired a videographer that will be following me around a lot more, so I'll be getting some more content, probably doing my podcast again, maybe. So maybe we'll have to do some collab stuff. And then Zeus Method is my company. There's an app Zeus method training on any app store. Uh, you can also just shoot me a DM. You can email me Nick at Zeus methodcom. Uh, I'll get back to you. I love chatting. If you want anything, I've got free workout programs. You can try even just a bunch of workouts If you just want them just to run through again. Fitness is simple. You don't need to have anything crazy, but as you develop, you'll learn, you'll grow.
Speaker 3:so, yeah, there you have it, last one yeah, I mean so before before I get this last one in closing, I just appreciate you being on. Um, like I said, you've been an incredible friend, super inspiring to a lot of people. Uh, chelsea's incredible, yeah, oh, she makes me better. So I mean, chelsea, what's funny is that the two of them balance each other out.
Speaker 3:You know, she, uh that's what you told me whereas, you know, nick has has done a really good job of finding peace in where he's at and the things he's been able to accomplish, like Chelsea's the go-getter.
Speaker 1:Yes, she is.
Speaker 3:She is a dog.
Speaker 1:Yes, she is.
Speaker 3:She's awesome and so she is also a fun follow on social very inspiring. You watch what she does on a day-to-day, she'll make you feel like you're like man. I got to start moving. What milestone did she hit?
Speaker 1:How long, so many steps she's done she's walked 700-some days in a row of 10,000 steps.
Speaker 3:So it's incredible. It's like 700-something so it's incredible.
Speaker 1:It's like 700 something. Yeah, she, she. When she starts something like if she didn't walk one day 10 000 steps just on accident, she probably would just stop. She's like oh, and she'd be like I need something else yeah.
Speaker 3:so for the ladies out there that you know that want to find a female, that's really setting the standard and doing some really cool things, chelsea is the most authentic person that I've ever met and a little plug if you're looking to sell a house.
Speaker 4:Yeah, real estate, both of you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got my license too.
Speaker 2:We're giving Chelsea the spotlight, though. Yeah, no, my wife is way better than me Go to my wife?
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, my wife is way better than me.
Speaker 3:Go to my wife. So last one before we exit. What's one challenge you'd put out there for our listeners to?
Speaker 1:help them level up in their own lives. I would say, when you wake up tomorrow, ask yourself what you weren't proud of, what's one thing you wish you would have done different, and then say that today you're going to do it and do it as soon as you can. And then tomorrow, when you wake up, say it again don't make a 30 day or a 90 day goal. Just if there is something that you want to make a change in, most likely when you wake up, ask yourself what it was, because you're very clear and just do it. Then Boom, every single day, one day at a time.
Speaker 3:That's awesome.
Speaker 4:I dig it. That's it. That's it, man. Appreciate you coming man.
Speaker 1:Hey, thank you guys. It's huge, it's awesome, it was a good one.
Speaker 3:All right, everybody. We appreciate you. Share it out, tell your friends, we'll see you guys next time.
Speaker 4:DM Nick.
Speaker 3:DM Nick. Yes, not weird stuff?
Speaker 4:Not yet, don't do that. I get lots of weird stuff.
Speaker 1:I got a side story about that.
Speaker 4:Okay, that'll be on the next episode and we're out of here you.
